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author E.J. (E.J. Peiker)
subjectWild life
title A PB for PB
date3/2/2002 5:34:27 AM
detailsPainted Bunting - this time the very colorful and also very elusive male. I sat on concrete for two days to get this shot - my butt still hurts :). The male PB would make his appearance about once ever 30 minutes to an hour but rarely would be off the ground and when he was it was typically for a second or less. I finally got this little guy (these are very tiny birds) on this perch for about 5 seconds. EOS 1D, 840mm + extension, ISO 400, 1/60 at F5.6 with a small amount of fill.

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1 ACook (Ann Cook)   (3/2/2002 5:48:53 AM)
Ten, ten, ten.
And I've been waiting for your post of this beauty. This guy deserves the honour of POTD. Oh the abuse we go through for a photo of a bird!
2 Berenice Kauffmann Abud (AFIAP /2004)   (3/2/2002 6:46:27 AM)
Beautiful composition and colors!
Congrats, E.J.
3 Joan Kunter   (3/2/2002 7:48:09 AM)
Wow E.J. You captured him...and did it perfectly! I know how 'skitterish' these guys are. The colors, detail and composition are 'right on' for me. Congratulations!
4 Keith Tate   (3/2/2002 7:56:11 AM)
I think I could string out a list of techinicals on this that just about meet perfection that would be a page long, but the three that strike me the most are the pose, lighting, and the plane.. "OUTSTANDING" E.J.,,, the sore butt was well worth the effort !!!!
5 Larry Korhnak   (3/2/2002 8:20:24 AM)
I don't see how it could be any better (well you I guess you could have a flock) :-)
6 Art Hill   (3/2/2002 8:31:14 AM)
7 Buschi   (3/2/2002 9:00:41 AM)
I can only say: wow !! (9)
8 Kimberly   (3/2/2002 9:00:52 AM)
I think WOW covers this nicely! What a beauty! K~
9 aocole (Art Cole)   (3/2/2002 9:02:14 AM)
10 MJFerron   (3/2/2002 9:13:13 AM)
I haven't given out a 10 in a while. This looks like the perfect photo for it. What a beautiful bird. PS, Bring a cushion to sit on next time. :> 10
11 ACook (Ann Cook)   (3/2/2002 9:27:25 AM)
I just like to come back periodically and take another look at him!
12 Claudia Robinson (looie's mom :-o)   (3/2/2002 9:39:53 AM)
What a beautiful bird. I remember these as a child, we would get so excited when they came around. This brings back good memories. Thank you! Excellent capture.
13 Betty Frazier   (3/2/2002 9:56:31 AM)
E.J., this is as close to perfection as it gets. Absolutely stunning.
14 cindy   (3/2/2002 9:59:58 AM)
Beautiful! You captured all of him perfectly. I guess the long wait paid off. What is "a small amount of fill"?
15 prefstock   (3/2/2002 10:15:36 AM)
Great capture! 9 Saul
16 Chantal   (3/2/2002 10:25:19 AM)
What a beautiful bird, I've never seen anything like it. Exceptionally well photographed and a very complimentary background as well.
17 E.J. (E.J. Peiker)   (3/2/2002 10:27:00 AM)
Cindy, the small amount of fill is potographers lingo shorthand :) for a small amount of fill flash - the flash exposure is about 2.5 stops less than the ambient exposure so it is just used to fill in any dark areas and provide a catchlight in the eyes.
18 blade67   (3/2/2002 11:02:27 AM)
Superb photo! I was worth the wait. Wonderful colors and details. Very very good! Stephan (9.5)
19 myeyes (Rose Robertson)   (3/2/2002 11:03:20 AM)
This is stunning! I have never seen such a beautiful bird.
Your great patience was definitely rewarded.
20 MelanieK.   (3/2/2002 12:00:26 PM)
Wow! What colors! Great focus and composition.
21 Bill_D (William Donnelly)   (3/2/2002 1:39:27 PM)
I just gave out my first 10 wow what a great shot!
22 sukey   (3/2/2002 1:49:09 PM)
The first thing I thought was, "This is just perfect!" The second was, "I wish I looked like that! Imagine if every time you looked in the mirror, you said to yourself, "Whoa! I'm looking mighty dandy today." I have a question maybe you could help me with. This might be one of those -- how does the thermos know to keep the liquid cold or hot? But, at that focal length, I understand a fill being at least one stop different from the ambient light to avoid flatness, but how does the fill provide the catchlight at 840mm? At that distance, is the light actually travelling that far or is the image caught at the point at the end of the lens...or some precise distance out? Also, why 2 and a half stops? I don't mean to sound like a dolt, I really want to understand the math. I can see that at that distance -- depending on how close the background was behind the bird, that you would be able to bleed the bg -- and the focus might not be as critical as at 4 or 2.8. But, I'm also wondering what the light reading was when you shot as well. In the meantime, it's just a gorgeous shot and the tan bg really allows the colors to fly off the page. Pun intended. Thanks in advance, E.J. Also, hope your butt feels better.
23 Hans (photography or politics?)   (3/2/2002 2:11:08 PM)
Technically excellent, yes. Colorful bird. On a branch. Nothing new, nothing exciting, not inspirational. In answer to Larry in #5, it would be better and inpirational if the bird was caught from another interresting angle, if he was doing some thing, holding food in the mouth, flying/landing whatever.
24 GuLacerda   (3/2/2002 2:32:52 PM)
25 mbighin (Mauro Bighin)   (3/2/2002 4:57:50 PM)
If I could judge just as a bird photo I'd say it's perfect, but I hope I won't be accused of blasphemy if I say that, considering it as a photo in the general world of photos and after the echoes and the wind of all the "wows", I must admit that I think composition is not perfect, at least the crop is not perfect.
If the tail would start from the right bottom angle, with a tighter crop on the right, and a bit more space on the bottom, it would be better.
The marvellous colors of this bird would be greatly emphasized by a darker background. Sure this bird is worth the hard work you've made.
26 owlz (Donna Eaton)   (3/2/2002 5:22:33 PM)
Oh, he's beautiful. Your sore butt paid off! It's just breathtaking to look at!
27 owlz (Donna Eaton)   (3/2/2002 5:28:41 PM)
Oh, he's beautiful. Your sore butt paid off! It's just breathtaking to look at!
28 CJB   (3/2/2002 6:22:33 PM)
Beautiful. Perfect in every way.
29 Bill L (Bill Lockyear)   (3/2/2002 8:19:54 PM)
Nice picture, well worth the wait. Sukey's question seems right on target if I could understand it. Congrats.
30 randall (more love - less hate)   (3/2/2002 10:21:14 PM)
31 Bhadresh prajapati   (3/3/2002 1:25:52 AM)
Simpley Perfect ! 9.9
32 E.J. (E.J. Peiker)   (3/3/2002 1:41:30 AM)
Thaks to all of those that took time to comment I really appreciate it. I am once again very dissapointed in the multiple minimum scores without comment. I don't feel that its constructive to do that. This will be my last post for a while - yes an 8.9 something is a very good score on PB but its the malicious acts of a select few that are ruining the experience for everyone. When an image is averaging above 9.2 after 30 votes and then suddenly gets five 7's in a short period, something is very wrong and this can only be attributed to malicious acts.
33 Hans (photography or politics?)   (3/3/2002 2:27:52 AM)
"Thanks to all of those that took time to comment I really appreciate it". I didnt see any thank you or something similar in the mail you sent me. But maybe the big E.J. only accept positive comments? In that case you are like most of us. And thats why people dont leave comments with their low votes.
34 E.J. (E.J. Peiker)   (3/3/2002 7:29:26 AM)
Hans, Aren't you one of the people that commented? Yes you are! So why wouldn't this be a thank you to you as well? I simply told you in the eMail that I have many different poses of this shot in response to your comment about wanting to see the bird doing something. But I'll elaborate on your "Nothing new, nothing exciting, not inspirational" comment which in my opinion as nature photographer who does mostly birds is hogwash. First of all, just seeing a tiny Painted Bunting is rare, getting him out of underbrush is even rarer, getting him to sit still in one place long enough to find him with a supertelephoto and then being able to compose the shot is even tougher. And finally, having the bird in a pose where you can actually see most of the bird with the head not pointed away and being able to see all of the coloration from the top of the bird to the bottom with adequate depth of field in a dark area is VERY difficult.
35 Larry Korhnak   (3/3/2002 7:57:34 AM)
I’m on record as rating this work as inspirational and to me your effort is evident in the result. But everybody “sees” differently and I don’t understand why you’re upset when a few just think it’s good. Take a spring break and come back flying higher.
36 Alliv   (3/3/2002 8:07:29 AM)
You did admirable work to bring this beauty to our eyes - you know that - we know that - everybody knows that, so why care about low scores of the 'dark shadows' lurking around? :) Think about it and please, don't 'punish' all the nice people here because of the few fools.
37 E.J. (E.J. Peiker)   (3/3/2002 8:08:54 AM)
Sorry for the little outburst and I shouldn't have taken it out on the PB general audience and should have rather dealt with Hans privately. I consider this "But maybe the big E.J. only accept positive comments?" a personal attack from someone that does not know me, has never met me, and in general has no clue as to who I am. For him to make a statement like this attacking my character is out of line and has no place on a public forum. I will go now!
38 Hans (photography or politics?)   (3/3/2002 9:03:26 AM)
Let's make it easy and say I misunderstood your private mail. Internet is full of misunderstandings. And you dont have to convince me that it's a difficult shot, I shoot wildlife (not zoolife) myself. And I didn't vote 7. I can vote now (8.33)
39 Carlos Brandão   (3/3/2002 9:28:44 AM)
Wowww !! REaly outstanding!
40 rachelbilodeau (Rachel Bilodeau)   (3/3/2002 10:11:29 AM)
well it was certainly worth the wait and I sure hope you feel better. How come there is no grain when you shoot at 400ISO - a perfect shot with perfect colors and composition - I would not change a thing - Rachel 9.25
41 Japper (Jasper Doest)   (3/3/2002 10:35:02 AM)
I already gave some comments on the I'll only vote right already know I like it a lot(9.75).
42 Mike Blanchard   (3/3/2002 2:09:32 PM)
A beautiful shot E.J. A just reward for your patience and skillful execution. Good one! (8.8)
43 Jimmy G   (3/3/2002 2:36:26 PM)
E.J. this is an awsome image it doesnt get any better than this (10)
44 gmx (Gustav Miller)   (3/3/2002 4:26:01 PM)
This is a really exceptional BIRD picture. It takes a lot of patience and hard work to get such a shot....from one who knows. This picture deserves a a score 10 and it will get it from me. Congratualtions on this wonderful nature shot.
45 Loosecanon   (3/3/2002 5:30:50 PM)
I have been silent on PB for a while for the same reasons that we see time and again. While Sergei has created a good site here I still feel it is a mistake to allow anonymous voting. It creates too much bad feeling and we have seen some of the best photo practioners get annoyed by it and either disappear or threaten to do so. If you are moved to apply a number, you must have an opinion so let's see it, it all helps. I have also seen Sergei's reasons for the status quo and while I can see his point of view I still feel that there is no room for anonymous voting. Clearly if there was a swarm of 7s on this photo the actual score does not reflect a true score, although it has probably happened to other excellent shots as well.
I also feel that the top photographers should hang loose a bit and not get too upset at the peripheral fools. Bringing superb images to a wide audience and spreading the gospel on the beauty of nature should be the main motive in sharing good works.
46 Ghostly Shooter   (3/3/2002 6:39:16 PM)
No words, no comments!
47 Jackle (Cory Poole)   (3/3/2002 8:10:33 PM)
A very clear shot of a nice looking bird. Tech. wise, from what I understand, this is very good. Compositionally, it seems that you took what was givin by the bird. I just don't feel a lot of impact when I look at it. Probably because I see so many others like it. Good work though, no doubt.
48 ChrisC (Christopher Cove)   (3/3/2002 8:38:00 PM)
E.J. Outstanding shot. I am alway amazed by your work!
49 archera (Roland DiSabatino)   (3/3/2002 8:39:17 PM)
Did anyone stop to consider that if the anonymous voters were not allowed to vote their 7's or 6's how the average score at PB would climb to the point where it might be impossible to separate a good pic from a very good pic etc. Perhaps the opinion of some of the many lower votes may have been honest, regardless if they were "informed" opinions or not. Also, consider this~suppose a 7 voter on a great picture really thought that's all it was worth, for whatever reasons, and stated them in a comment. I'm wondering what kind of bruha and revenge voting might occur. Also, this is a site where the objective, I believe, is to gather the opinions from many ... informed opinions and not so informed opinions. Another thought ... as stated on the PhotoBlink page this is a simulation, not only a contest per-se. Suppose EJ put this photo in a real photo contest with prizes. Some things would be different ... there probably would be no explanation that he could offer to explain the difficulty, and if the judges preferred wading birds, he would get no explanation if his picture was overlooked ... sorta like the 7 votes here. That's part of how the simulation works. This is a great pic, the current score reflects that, and at the same time the score reflects that there are some voters to whom the appeal was less. Also, I'd bet my last wooden nickle, that if it weren't for the 7 votes on this picture, that there would have been fewer "10's" to balance things out. Good Job E.J. (9.25)
50 Allen Rogers   (3/3/2002 10:04:01 PM)
Well said Roland. I keep my opinion to myself most of the time now but after reading your comment on 'comment of the day' I thought I'd put my 2 cent worth in as well. My opinion is the '10' votes are more out of line in this forum than are the 7/8 votes. I've seen way too many so-so images with an average vote well into the 8 range. It doesn't bother me that people are overvoting so much as it shows that most here are amateur's and the overly high vote reflects this IMO. Saying an image is good (7 vote) is often the best that can be said. Ok having said that I'll reveal my vote on this image. I gave it an 8 which says it's very good. Good job E.J. Enough said.
51 Martin W. Quinn   (3/3/2002 10:22:50 PM)
Then again maybe if we did away with anonymous voting there would be less need for "balancing out" votes. This photo is not a 10, the tail feathers are a bit OOF along with its right foot, but 7 come on.
52 archera (Roland DiSabatino)   (3/3/2002 11:12:40 PM)
Martin ... A reasonable point, but then the simulation goal of PB as listed on the About PB page would perhaps be diminished. It says ... "Its (PB's) purpose is to provide simulation of a real life competition for advanced and professional photographers and to educate amateur enthusiasts." Also, I'm pretty sure it was Larry that once mentioned a similar condition at another site and when their anon voting was abolished, the average vote escalated way to high, obvious voting clicks formed, and in general it didn't work out too well. This was quite a while ago, and I don't know the current state of affairs at that site though. Also, the pros and cons of the anon voting has gone on forever at PB, or so it seems. Perhaps it always will, and in it's own way it sure keeps things hoppin' and lively! :O)
53 RobertF   (3/3/2002 11:19:41 PM)
Beautiful colors, sharpness, and composition IMHO. A wonderful capture! (9.2)
54 gdanger (George Dangerfield)   (3/3/2002 11:56:06 PM)
Sure is a gorgeous bird E.J., technically a perfect shot! (9.3)
55 jdking   (3/3/2002 11:59:34 PM)
A gorgeous bird E.J. and a beautiful (and I'm sure a difficult) capture.
56 don8371   (3/4/2002 12:59:32 PM)
Excellent. Great capture
57 LindaY (Linda Y)   (3/4/2002 8:34:48 PM)
WOW!!! What a spectacular photo E.J. I thought that the female of this species was pretty, but here male counterpart is fabulous. The composition is just beautiful and the colors are beautiful. I hope that you feel that the hardship was worth it to get this shot. I think that it is. Of course, I missed it when it first went up because I was out of town without computer access. :(
58 (Stephen Muskie)   (3/4/2002 8:59:54 PM)
Just because a photograph is very difficult to make doesn't make it a great photograph. I really appreciate hearing about the effort to which EJ went in making this picture and I like the picture. The bird is beautiful. But I don't think the picture itself is remarkable - for me it's pleasant. I'll refrain from voting in this case and just comment. Perhaps anonymous voting IS a bad idea. I really don't like the contest aspect anyway. It's the comments and discussion about photos that most interests me (and of course seeing all the wonderful pictures). I wouldn't bother to vote as often as I do if I didn't have to vote in order to post. I really like EJ's pictures and I enjoy the carefully composed comments that are sometimes posted about his and other pictures.
59 Darryl   (3/5/2002 1:23:46 AM)
I'm still quite new to this site, and the above comments have been very illuminating. It seems that scoring anything as subjective as a art form is going to produce a broad range of results from thoughtful and probing to ecstatic but morbidly uninformed, with helpings of arrogant, rude, venal, cloying, fawning and plain stupid thrown in. How does one "rate" a photo that is a technically superb rendition of a banal subject? Is it better or worse than a less masterful photo of an extraordinary subject? Does it matter that the bird in this picture is extremely difficult to capture? Were the Canadian skaters really better than the Russians? As Roland points out in comment 49, what if the judges in a real competition simply prefer wading birds?

All things considered, this particular image strikes me as an extraordinary capture of an extraordinary subject. Of all the pictures I've seen here so far, it is the first that I wish I could give a 10--twice.
60 SirnesPhotography (Trine Sirnes)   (3/5/2002 3:17:47 AM)
Isn't photography also about creativity? Isn't it also about giving it your personal touch? Isn't it also doing something different, finding a different approach, showing soemthing ordinary in an extraordinary way? Ok, this might be a rare bird, and it sure does have nice colours, and sure, the photographer had to be patient, and yes, it's sharp.But, for crying out load, it's a bird..It would be nice in a book of birds, or on the wall of a ornitologist, but this isn't a site for birds, it's a site for photography. And since it IS that, you shouldn't accuse the few that vote 7 of "malicious acts". I couldn't care a rats ass(excuse my french) how long it took to take this photo. It's the final result and impact that counts, and for me a 7 - good, is more than enough for this.
61 wilcoxjj (Joanna Wilcox)   (3/5/2002 8:06:22 AM)
beautiful shot, thanks for sharing it with us
62 H. Lehmann (Hanne Lehmann)   (3/5/2002 8:16:20 AM)
#60 "Seven": I can smell your jealousy all the way to Copenhagen, where I'm located. And honestly it doesn't smell good.
63 H. Lehmann (Hanne Lehmann)   (3/5/2002 8:17:24 AM)
By the way I voted 8.5 ealier (the other day) for this picture.
64 SirnesPhotography (Trine Sirnes)   (3/5/2002 8:30:21 AM)
H. Lehmann, you can think I'm jealous as much as you want, if that makes you feel better. it's really sad though, that if I don't have the same opinion as you, there has to be something wrong with me, or I have to act out of the wrong reasons. At least I was honest. No, tell me why you have to tell everybody what you voted on this photo. So that they all can come running to your photos and give you a vote of the same value? All I really ment was to ask everyone to broaden their horizon, that this photo might not be near the best photo on this site(but you give it a 10, which should mean that it IS the best photo here). If this should be my highest goal within photography, then this would be a truely sad day.
65 CherylB (I only lie when I do not like your pic)   (3/5/2002 8:31:06 AM)
Nice colorful shot. I like it.
66 Terry Forrest (Teresa Forrest)   (3/5/2002 8:37:46 AM)
So it's another bird shot or another flower shot or another scenic shot? So what? What counts is the QUALITY of whatever type of shot it is and what it makes you think and feel when you look at it and that is what needs to be thought of, in my opinion, that of someone who's been on this site, commented and posted photos for a long, long time (certainly not as long as Larry or Allen because one of Allen's lovely floral photos was the first photo I commented about on 6/17/00), but probably not very far behind the both of them. I don't watch tv any more because I prefer to look at the photos here and on other sites and do things photographically, so I try to look at each photo individually and rate and comment on them as such. As the color "freak" that I am, this is gorgeous to me; the great non-distracting background is a big plus. My first impression of this was that around the beak it looks like the bird is smiling. That, to me, gives it a different look. (9)
67 E.J. (E.J. Peiker)   (3/5/2002 8:59:00 AM)
Seven - I'm not sure I understand this comment "Ok, this might be a rare bird, and it sure does have nice colours, and sure, the photographer had to be patient, and yes, it's sharp.But, for crying out load, it's a bird...It would be nice in a book of birds, or on the wall of a ornitologist, but this isn't a site for birds, it's a site for photography." Are you saying that birds are somehow not a worthy subject for photography? I am very confused!
68 SirnesPhotography (Trine Sirnes)   (3/5/2002 9:18:29 AM)
No, E.J, I'm saying that the rules that every other photo is judged by, also works for birds. An excample: Sunsets are beautiful, right? But,there are a zillion of them, and even though, they are from different parts of the world, and some of them you had to walk for miles to see, and there are many different colors, it's still a sunset. To make it something more, you have to have a different approach to it, maybe add a subject, use it as a background for something completely different, or do something that no-one has thought of before. Shouldn't creativity apply for birdphotographers? If I were a portrait photographer, and all my models posed in the exact same way, would I deserve a 10 on my photos, if my models all looked perfect, sat in a perfect lighting, and all the technical details were flawless? Hell, no.
69 Greg Downing   (3/5/2002 9:21:39 AM)
E.J. This is an amazing photo and well deserved of my 10 vote. I sat there with you for 2 days and know how hard this is to achieve. I wasn't able to get anything nearly this good. And my ass is sore too. Everything is pefect from the DOF to the lighting, the pose, the angle and the composition. As for the other comments: if people want to put thier heads in the sand and deny the significance of such an effort and the resulting photo then it is best just to ignore them and let them wallow in their own ignorance and close-mindedness. Don't sweat the low votes. We all get them. The most famous bird photographer in the world waited 19 years to get a decent image of this bird and IMO this one is at least as good or better so you should be very proud of it. Congratulations.
70 H. Lehmann (Hanne Lehmann)   (3/5/2002 9:23:51 AM)
Seven: I always tell what I vote. Not only on E.J. pictures, but on All pictures. No my pictures is not worth as high scores as E.J. pictures deserve, so I don't think anyone will vote on my pictures, just because I write what I voted on this and on all others. Besides you write this is a website for photography and not for birds. Eeeehhmmm this is a photography, no matter what it shows. I think you sound very jealousy. First of all, you don't tell your real name, you have an hotmail mailadress, and you are very rude.
71 detlef   (3/5/2002 9:33:24 AM)
Very nice image. I can see every deatil on the birds coat, even a catch-light..background handled great...Very nice image!
72 mrgetz (Thinkyouneek )   (3/5/2002 10:29:48 AM)
Nobody deserves a 10.
73 SirnesPhotography (Trine Sirnes)   (3/5/2002 11:41:00 AM)
This is starting to get ridiculous. When did I get rude? Being honest is rude these days? Last time I looked, this was a place where you submited photos for critics. I see here a photo with the running score of 8.991, an overall rank of 5(the 5th. best photo on the site!), with 72 comments, most of them extremely positive. I'm being attacked and called rude for being honest enough to try to explain why not everybody think as highly of it, and that this could be the reason why it received a few 7's. And you wonder why I don't use my real name????
74 Maurilio   (3/5/2002 2:03:21 PM)
Excellent picture. Ten, Ten, Ten...
75 robinschooley (Robin Schooley)   (3/5/2002 3:45:39 PM)
This is a technically excellent image and I have a lot of respect for what you went through to capture it. However, I also have a hard time considering this image to be inspirational. Perhaps if I were a bird photographer I'd feel differently. For me this is a pretty picture. Nice saturated colors, balanced composition, perfect exposure, including a great catchlight as a result of the pop of fill. What it is missing for me, a non bird lover (even though I was named after one), is emotion. Without your description I, as the viewer, have no idea how elusive these birds are. I also have no way of telling the bird's actual size, nor do I know anything about its habits. I am not saying that I expect all these things to be captured on film. It would be so very difficult to do this. What I AM saying is that in my opinion, in order to award this image a 10, those things WOULD have to be included in the image. But then, I have awarded very few 10's in my thirteen and a half months at PB. This is a very good, technically excellent image, EJ. But in my opinion, when compared to some of the other bird pics I've seen you post... well, let's just say there are others I've liked better.
76 erlandpil   (3/5/2002 3:59:12 PM)
So wonderful
77 Gloria Hopkins   (3/5/2002 8:52:53 PM)
Bird photography doesnt get much better than this. Way to go, EJ.
78 Garry Budyk   (3/5/2002 10:51:20 PM)
Wildlife photography , and particularly in this instance , bird photography , is most deeply appreciated by those who feel a strong connection to the natural world . The sight of an expertly captured rarity such as this PB , strengthens that connection and speaks to the dedication and love the photographer has for living creatures and the world they inhabit . This isn't a statue or a studio mock-up . This is a jewel of creation , and to have persevered until this moment in time , and to have frozen that moment in time so accurately , is an outstanding achievement . Well done E.J.!
79 Ten   (3/6/2002 2:23:22 AM)
This photo is definitely worth a vote of me! Ten!
80 Eleven   (3/6/2002 2:25:24 AM)
Actually, I'm so impressed, if I could, I'd give this a me! Eleven. Great work, E.J.!
81 SirnesPhotography (Trine Sirnes)   (3/6/2002 2:31:18 AM)
Hey, Eleven, what do you say we join forces, and create a 7/11 :)
82 serkru   (3/8/2002 4:20:28 AM)
83 Lynda   (4/13/2002 12:23:07 AM)
I try and try to get good shots of birds, they are so hard to shoot. I LOVE this photo its the best PB photo I have ever seen. Beautiful does not do it justice.
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